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Ausdoerrt-sama   Fansub TV Team Mar 26 2012, 01:07 PM Quote
^ Perhaps spoiler tags are in order? Y'know just saying.

And isn't 8/10 an awfully high rating for something that's failing as an anime? dry.gif

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Anyway, only 2 minutes in, I'm already laughing my @$$ off!

1. Yay! Last ep so we have to kill all the secondary charas off! Wohoo! rolleyes.gif (What's the point of stopping the curse at this point anyway? Everyone's dead and the rest have "plot armour" on laugh.gif )

2. This pic:

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3. Da heck! Our hero has da moves! Is he a ninja now?



More hilarity to come...


EDIT: OK, now that my laughter subsided and I finished watching, and I have to say that was one of the worst-written PoS I've seen in anime in a while. The whole Reiko thing made NO sense whatsoever - it was based on a RetCon and/or withholding crucial info which there was no reason to hide at the time. There were basically no clues, so the revelation basically has you go "Why?".

None of the motivations made sense either. Apparently the hotel manager went crazy trying to kill everyone because she had "poor mental health" from some shock ? WTF? That's it? Misaki apparently knew EVERYTHING from the start and didn't say anything? WTF #2? They could've just prevented it all with an extra desk /facepalm. (Though how come she actually remembers all of that is another major plot hole.)

The ending was ultimately unsatisfying as well. I'm reasonably sure no one had a doubt that the series would end with the heroes stopping the calamity. That does not a proper ending make. Where's any sort of last words, overview of what happened, reflection on the characters? Anything at all? *crickets*

One other major nitpick is the fact that the series seems to spend all 12 episodes to build the atmosphere of trust and relationship between Kibara and Misaki, but at the crucial moment where it should've been central ( the "do I trust a family member or this girl?" moment ) it doesn't come into play! What a waste of time.

Well, now that I've completely busted the episode and the series (it gets another 4/10 from me), here's a few pics for good laughs:

1. Physics? Pfft.

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2. And not a *bleep* was given that day:

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NecroRyu-UURYYYY xD   Sempais Mar 26 2012, 01:33 PM Quote
QUOTE (JCDRANZER @ Mar 26 2012, 01:39 PM)
One thing that bothers me is something I read after catching up with the series, and its that Aunt Reiko is also the same person as the assistant teacher, Mikami for class 3-3. Ah, I just did a check on MAL, seems that Mikami is an anime-only character, in the manga, Reiko has a similar role. Don't read what it says on Reiko's character page on MAL because it reveals a very big spoiler, you have been warned!

well at least this anime adaptation did a good job not being so predictable in this last episode, nobody of us could guess about her double identity and she being the extra though there were many clues pointing it out (like the bird repeating her parent's words of grief for her death or how she reacted while hearing it), also Misaki saw the color of death on Izumi as well but that's most likely because she was dying in that very moment so she wasn't really a "second" extra after all ...as I already mentioned in the B★RS thread Another went on the opposite way of my expectations towards each series, right now I'm between 6/10 and 7/10 so I'll wait to watch Episode 0 until it's released in one of the next days to decide my final score on this dry.gif
 
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Ausdoerrt-sama   Fansub TV Team Mar 26 2012, 01:49 PM Quote
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well at least this anime adaptation did a good job not being so predictable in this last episode, nobody of us could guess about her double identity and she being the extra though there were many clues pointing it out (like the bird repeating her parent's words of grief for her death or how she reacted while hearing it)


Except it wasn't a good job. The "clues" you mention were minor and meant pretty much nothing. Reiko as a character wasn't central in any way. All of it hinged on the viewer not knowing what the hero knew all along, which is plain bad writing. Had we known the connection from the start, it would've been a whole lot more obvious. As is, there's no reason to suspect Reiko at all, because from what we knew, she wasn't part of the class and so couldn't possibly be the extra.

BTW, from a quite curious discussion I saw on another forum, how exactly does she change hair pigmentation so easily? Does she dye it every morning to black, and then back to blond when she returns from work? rolleyes.gif
 
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ImTakes-sama   Retired Mar 26 2012, 02:15 PM Quote
QUOTE (Ausdoerrt @ Mar 26 2012, 12:49 PM)
Except it wasn't a good job. The "clues" you mention were minor and meant pretty much nothing. Reiko as a character wasn't central in any way. All of it hinged on the viewer not knowing what the hero knew all along, which is plain bad writing. Had we known the connection from the start, it would've been a whole lot more obvious. As is, there's no reason to suspect Reiko at all, because from what we knew, she wasn't part of the class and so couldn't possibly be the extra.

BTW, from a quite curious discussion I saw on another forum, how exactly does she change hair pigmentation so easily? Does she dye it every morning to black, and then back to blond when she returns from work? rolleyes.gif

Hot diggity damn! I am with you on this one, Aus-san! A real stinker in the end that failed to deliver on all counts...except, of course, in the drawn pretty anime characters division...but so what? Like you, I stopped caring about what clues were and where when in reality, they were very minor indeed, to a mishmash story that like I said before and gladly say so again...went down the tubes and fast. rolleyes.gif I will leave it a 5/10 (and that's being generous) since the anime characters were so pretty even when covered in blood and guts but sure as hell, no glory! tongue.gif Glad this mediocrity is so over. rolleyes.gif
 
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JCDRANZER - Sky King   Fansub TV Team Mar 26 2012, 02:36 PM Quote
I'm waiting for a certain subber to release this one. Yeah, 8/10 is high, I kinda do that, but my real scoring would be more like 6 to 7 out of 10. wink.gif

Soz about not being spoiler tags, at first I was confused with the whole Reiko-Mikami thing and MAL character list sort of cleared it up by revealing that they're separate characters in the anime. rolleyes.gif
 
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senpai-kun-nakama   Retired Mar 26 2012, 03:58 PM Quote
I guess you can say the last episode cleared up the rest of the mysteries to an extent; there were just a few minor details that I wasn't to clear on. I deleted the last episode right after I watched it and have no intentions on ever re-downloading or watching the series again since it was just meh-okay overall. So if anybody has the answers I'll just read your posts and move on from this anime.

So basically Akazawa did in fact meet Kouichi a year an a half ago and just couldn't remember because of the curse correct? Because it was implied that he was visiting from Tokyo (the whole scene from Akazawa's memory) at the time for Reiko's funeral (I guess) even though we never actually saw him attending it in the flashbacks. Plus Reiko becoming the extra would explain why he couldn't directly remember that time a year an a half ago. Though honestly I'm not sure how Mei was able to remember Reiko's murder; the curse didn't have any effect in that particular circumstance? They might have explained it but I didn't quite follow the reasoning.

Plus another thing about Reiko's murder in the flashback that had me somewhat puzzled was the guy who stabbed her. I originally assumed that it was Kouichi because they looked so much alike. I thought that would have been an interesting plot twist. The news report said it was an unknown assailant and Mei never comes out and says that Kouichi was the one who killed Reiko. So was that just some teenage boy who looked like Kouichi that killed her? They could have at least explained why she was murdered in the first place. Was there even a motive behind it?

The last part that was somewhat odd to me was when Kouichi actually killed Reiko. He didn't even bother trying to explain that they had found out she was the extra and had to kill her to stop the curse. I mean he referred to her as his mother (I'm assuming he was speaking figuratively since they were I guess so close) so doesn't she at least deserve some kind of explanation. I figured that was going to be some kind of big emotional scene to make the viewers actually care that he was going to kill his aunt but no he just finishes her off blink.gif Oh well the anime wasn't that well done to begin with so I guess I shouldn't have been too surprised. After all Mei keeping quiet about Reiko being the extra after she had heard the tape (and how to stop the curse) cost a lot of other people their lives. But the last episodes wouldn't have had much suspense if she had done something about it then; it just seems kind of odd looking back on that after the series is over.

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Kid-Wolf~Posessed by the Phoenix~   Fansub TV Team Mar 26 2012, 05:00 PM Quote
Well with this episode 12 everything made sense as to why he never remembered anything that happened to him a year and a half ago. So I have to say that the things Izumi said to him really made perfect sense, it's a shame that she had to die in the end. sad.gif

Anyways I guess you can say there was closure invovled in all of this, but for them to burn a disk about how to stop the cure and to metnion to be mindful on the decision or problems will occour over it was kind of the closure they sort of needed.
 
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ShinnFlowen   Mar 29 2012, 01:55 AM Quote
Well episode one was really odd with the way the family and parrot mumbling weird things and the countermeasure head saying she meet the protagonist. If you came in watching the show looking for clues right off the start than you might find something is odd with his family. The worst part is that they did not SHOW that scene in the first episode which ruins most people's ability to guess it was her all along.

The other problem is the curse is not resolved and the origin of the curse is never fully understood, but a sequel could possibly focus on ending the curse like how Higurashi no naku koro ni did with Higurashi no naku koro ni kai.

If there is a sequel than I'd think this is a good entry in establishing the world, but if there isn't one than this show is just decent with the surprises/gore 7/10.

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Killer_Ossi Retired   Apr 04 2012, 12:54 PM Quote
Wow they threw a real curveball at us in the end. Just like everyone else said it just doesnt make sense.
Ms Mikami is Reiko oO
A lot of people were seen dying but in the end it was almost no one oO
Reiko can change her haircolor daily oO
The Manager going berserk because of that oO
No closure to what actually happened 26 years ago oO
All of a sudden a teacher can be too much too oO
What about all those strange scenes with the dolls from the first ep oO

This show totally fell apart in the last ep. The slaughterfest which wasnt really one didnt make any sense just like the whole Mikami Reiko stuff. And Misaki as a character made just no sense too.

This show really had the best beginning this season, so of course Im even more disappointed now.

Cant believe it is rated as a 8.20 on MAL and the reviews almost all beeing a 9 or a 10 oO But I knew already that the people on MAL dont have taste.

Overall it was enjoyable until the last two eps where it all fell apart. Plot was a giant hole, characters were mostly unlikeable (except Ms Mikami beeing hot) and the end was just bad. Only really good thing was the animation.

A 6/10 from me and I get the feeling this is still quite generous.

 
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wceend-Spama Sosei   Sempais Apr 04 2012, 06:00 PM Quote
I jsut started watching this.. the dolls give me the creeps XD

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JCDRANZER - Sky King   Fansub TV Team Apr 25 2012, 05:56 PM Quote
I watched the final episode a couple weeks back, had to watch on a laptop that was able to view it without it lagging, which it did on my old laptop. I only updated my MAL a week ago because I've been so engrossed in finishing and grinding out Dynasty Warriors 7 till I got all the achievements and 100% everything in the game during the Easter holidays.

I'm so sorry about one of my previous posts, I seriously didn't think they were going to pull out the manga ending in the anime because Reiko really wasn't much of a central character, I didn't even know she was Miss Mikami in the anime, I knew she was in the manga but not in the anime, so when they showed that "flashback" in the final episode, I wondered if they really had shown it in an earlier episode of her saying it to her nephew, I really couldn't remember the scene ever being done in the earlier episode. Obviously, Reiko's initial death is different in the manga than in the anime, I find the initial manga death to be more chilling.

OK, I was a careless when I said that this failed as an anime because it really didn't but I don't think it captured the essence of a horror story well despite having a great concept, it was executed blandly and the characters were awkward. Good horror anime is Higurashi, which Another clearly wasn't even up to its standards. The characters were plain and I didn't care what happened to them because the first few episodes seemed like this series was actually going to be good but it ended up being quite mediocre.

Hence, my rating for this series is a 7/10. Generous rating given because I was biased and had expectations but it disappointed me but the ppl without my expectations will still enjoy this, which I did but not so much.

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NecroRyu-UURYYYY xD   Sempais May 28 2012, 11:02 PM Quote
after two months the OVA is out and wasn't bad to watch Mei's happy times when she had fun with her sister Misaki Fujioka adding a few ecchi and "yuri" scenes before her death triggered the curse of class 3-3 in 1998, this episode 0 turned out a bit better than I expected but still isn't good enough compared to the first episodes of the series which preliminarily got 8/10 in the beginning... I though this prequel would be about the origin of that curse back in 1972 after Misaki Yomiyama died and his relationship with Ritsuko Sakakibara but that may happen if there is "another" special, the only adaptation left is the movie to be released this August but probably subbed from the DVD/BRD until 2013 -.- meanwhile I can wait patiently with very low expectation so here go my final scores:

Another (TV series 12 episodes) winter 2012 - 6/10
Another OVA (#00 The Other -Karma-) spring 2012 - 7/10
Another (Live-action film) summer 2012 - ???
 
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Kit-Tsukasa-desu   Fansub TV Leaders Dec 25 2012, 02:36 AM Quote
Another is based off a Japanese fiction mystery and horror novel originally published in 2009. It follows Koichi Sakakibara who transfers to Yomiyama Middle School and meeting the mysterious Mei Misaki. Unfortunately, his contact seems to lead to a sequence of mysterious, gruesome, and senseless deaths of his classmates. He later learns that this is a curse that has been stuck with this particular middle school class ever since his mother attended the same school. Another premiered with 12 episodes during the Winter 2012 anime season, was simulcasted by CrunchyRoll and licensed by Sentai Filmworks.

So here's another title that took me effectively one year to finish as I continue to clear out some of the backlog. Technically I had completed 10 episodes around March 2012 as it was finishing up but real life got mixed in and put it off until now so I'll try to be brief. To start off, I'm a bit mixed about the story. Another does a great job at providing the suspense factor but does a terrible job at explaining the actual story. It initially starts off very slow with monotone dialogue. The pale setting also didn't really help until the first death in episode 3. After that, it became what you could call a gore fest. As said before, the suspense factor leading up to all these deaths are great but we never really learn anything about the plot. Even at the end of the day, the "ultimate" mystery is finding out who is the "another" in the class and the conclusion is rather questionable in more ways than one. There really wasn't much of a mystery involved and was more "horror" and gore than anything else. In fact, one could even say the show goes full circle and doesn't really resolve anything, such as finding an "effective" solution in remedying the curse in the future.

Background and details are above average for this show. The dark and gloomy setting fits nicely with the show but the visuals get dull really fast due to the vast amount of monotone coloring. Horror is meant to be dark but there is a limit as to what you could do to dark scenery. Everyday should not always be cloudy. Character designs are also stale for the most part. It bugs me how the quality also differs so much when compared to the ED video sequence. Animation is a bit out of wack at times and for the most part basic. Considering this is a work by P.A. Works, this is especially weak when you consider it came off of major titles like Hanasaku Iroha, Angel Beats!, and True Tears.

OP is by ALI PROJECT, a group that I rarely like and Another's theme is no exception. Fitting with the show to a degree though. ED is ok and also fitting with the series. Background music is great for this show as it matches the suspense factor. It's nice that they give viewers "a little scare" using the music even though a death doesn't always occur. Sound effects are rather weak, however. Seiyuu is weak overall. While I didn't really bother to look at the cast line up this time, everyone is literally monotone that it makes listening to dialogue incredibly boring at times. The explanations are often roundabout with no proper conclusion and having a monotone cast only makes it worse. It's as if they're literally reading dialogue from the novel.

Enjoyment? Another had some ups and downs. Ultimately, it felt more like another Blood-C, which is ironically by the same director. Tsutomu Mizushima can clearly do gore but clearly fails at presenting a proper horror story. I'm personally not a big fan of gore. However, I will admit that some of the scenes were well portrayed. Again, if only it was a better adapted story. In terms of other similar titles, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni effectively does what Another does but with a slightly livelier setting. Shiki is another similar title but utilizes a different sort of "curse."

Overall, Another is one of those shows where once the cat is out of the bag, it's over. As said many times, suspense drove this show forward. Its characters, plot, "mystery" and premise were all as dull as they could have possibly been. That said, the show does have a little bit of value mostly for those who haven't seen it and because very few shows exist in this space. However long-term wise as more titles appear in this space, it will likely diminish, especially when titles like Higurashi and Shiki easily top it. In fact, there are even parts of Umineko no Naku Koro ni that I consider more enjoyable than Another.


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