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Mouretsu Pirates, Bodacious Space Pirates

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Norren-san   Mar 25 2012, 03:48 AM Quote
What a beautifully simple ending. Drug both princesses so neither can start a firefight. XD

I like the new credits music, and I'm curious to see which friend she takes a job for. Trailer suggests Jenny, I suspect Chiaki.

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Norren-san   Apr 14 2012, 07:41 PM Quote
Return of revenge of Hakuou Academy Yacht Club!

They could probably claim just that laser discharge and stealing their own ship back as an act of piracy and save themselves some trouble.

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Norren-san   Apr 28 2012, 10:40 PM Quote
It's official.

Lynn has turned into mini-Kirk.

This episode's best line.

"Her smile isn't reaching her eyes."

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Kid-Wolf~The Night Sparrow's Assistant~   Fansub TV Team Apr 30 2012, 12:06 AM Quote
Okay ladies and gentlemen after 17 episodes in we finally get an actual yuriesque moment. laugh.gif

Well aside from that it seems that Jenny is having a issue with her uncle and pretty much wanted to hire Marika to help her out. Granted she wanted ot make a run for it so in other words she kind of made her escape before Marika could come up wiht anything to bail her out.

On the plus side she did ask for an escort and protect job, but it looks like Mairka is going to tak eit a step further by taking out her Unlce in the process. tongue.gif
 
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Killer_Ossi Fan of Mature Women   May 01 2012, 05:24 AM Quote
What an ep. The thought of Jenny and Lynn beeing an item never once crossed my mind. But I like it tongue.gif

The scene where Jenny escape was totally useless. It just made no sense. I thought it was some dreamsequence or something.

@Norren: When did that sentence appear? I think I know which scene you mean but my file said "Her eyes arent laughing" which makes more sense for me.

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Kid-Wolf~The Night Sparrow's Assistant~   Fansub TV Team May 01 2012, 05:36 AM Quote
Ah, he probably used a different sub group on that, but the line is somewhat the same. Pretty much she maybe laughing, but it's not the type of laugh you use when someone is telling a joke, but more along the line of laughing at the futility of others that get in your way. wink.gif
 
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Killer_Ossi Fan of Mature Women   May 01 2012, 05:40 AM Quote
Didnt know there are other subgroups out for this show ^^

Hmm I thought it was meant that she is only laughing to not show her real feelings of fear. But your explanation works even better seeing as what happens afterwards since she doesnt look scared.

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Norren-san   May 01 2012, 12:12 PM Quote
Ah, I probably paraphrased it without thinking about it. The idea is the same anyway - "the laugh isn't genuine".

The impression I got out of it was "She's laughing, but it's to hide that she's she's dead serious"

There's a number of ways that sort of behavior can spin, but in this case, I think it's being used emphasize Jenny is a good businesswoman from a Japanese culture slant. Much in the same way that the Japanese value businessmen who can hide their true emotions and hide their body language in meetings.

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AccipiterF1-sama   Fansub TV Team May 01 2012, 02:55 PM Quote
QUOTE (Killer_Ossi @ May 01 2012, 06:24 AM)
What an ep. The thought of Jenny and Lynn beeing an item never once crossed my mind. But I like it tongue.gif


You just haven't been paying attention. The evidence has been right in the OP since the first episode. Look at their hands:

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Actually I didn't notice that myself until this episode either. dry.gif Though I'm very surprised it slipped past Kid's yuri-goggles. wink.gif
 
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senpai-kun-nakama   Fansub TV Team May 02 2012, 10:18 AM Quote
The Jenny X Lynn yuri romance angle made me remember this tweet from the director I read a while back.

Director Sato Tatsuo tweeted that he has excluded all the romance elements from Moretsu Pirates and Rinne no Lagrange. He said it's an experimental approach to compose the scripts focusing on the friendships without romance, but he believes something unexpected will be created in such an old-fashioned way.

Oh I found the source here: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=390445

So did he just outright lie here and for to what end? I suppose he could mean romance won't be prominent although that goes against him saying he has excluded all the romance elements. IDK I just thought that was interesting because while watching the episode I got the feeling that Jenny and Lynn might have that kind of relationship but suffice to say it was still shocking to see the kiss right when Jenny made her way to the bridge. Then Lynn's comment of just let them watch (referring to all the squealing girls) when they went for round two was pretty funny.

The one thing I wonder about when watching this anime is do they try to incorporate too many characters? It's almost like they are trying to be too ambitious because they don't fully utilize the main characters in my opinion. Sometimes I think if they would focus on the personalities of the crew, Marika, Chiaki, Gruier (who always reminds me of Sailor Moon w/her meatball hair style) and insert more Mami somehow I would care more about story. The show has a great concept with the adventures of space pirates but for the reasons stated above it still feels lacking.
 
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Killer_Ossi Fan of Mature Women   May 02 2012, 11:01 AM Quote
Yes thats what I already said some time ago. The characters just dont get enough screentime. The current arc is the best proof. They threw away the old crew which now only has cameos just to bring in some other persons who will probably end up the same as the old crew after the arc when the old crew comes back. And the really bad thing about that is that we know almost nothing of the old crew. Ok we know Schnitzer is an android (and thus its quite stupid that he got sick too), one of them is a hacker and the other one some kind of fortune teller. But except that, nothing.
The same with Ririka. She was shown doing something new for her life but afterwards nothing more. And no real storys about Blaster Ririka, her connection to the old captain of the Bentenmaru. Not even the smallest bit of a story of the old adventures of the Bentenmaru with her deceased captian of anything.

That plus a lot of ridiculous scenes (f. e. Jennys escape) and too much happy-go-lucky are standing in the way of this show beeing really great.

@Accipiter: Nice find. To be honest Im not really good in noticing the small things, neither when watching animes nor in real life.
 
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Norren-san   May 02 2012, 12:43 PM Quote
QUOTE (Killer_Ossi @ May 02 2012, 10:01 AM)
Ok we know Schnitzer is an android (and thus its quite stupid that he got sick too),

Schnitzer is a Cyborg, not android. Depending on what parts of him are machine and what parts are human, he could potentially be even more likely to catch something given huge portions of his immune system could simply be gone. We know he CAN go on internal air reservoirs to make spacewalks, but I assume that works via some sort of shut off valve that if he didn't (know/think/have time) to flip on, which could easily let some flavor of sickness through.

I don't have the episode handy to grab on the road, but I seem to recall them saying something about it being a weaponized strain anyway. I would have no problems believing a weaponized strain of a disease could go through the average air filtration system, also.

That detail aside...

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So did he just outright lie here and for to what end? I suppose he could mean romance won't be prominent although that goes against him saying he has excluded all the romance elements.


Perhaps their relationship isn't a romance element? Characters in love isn't romance in the way we're getting to see it. We didn't watch them fall in love, we probably won't get to see much more aside from that little bit of fan service, maybe one more fan service bit when they drop Jenny off at college. I think we should look at the scene as just that... fan service.

As to the oversized cast... I agree with everyone that they're not spending enough time with characters, but I approve of how cautiously they're letting us see what the old crew can do. I mean, they don't really need Marika except for paperwork's sake. The slightest mistake there will break the dynamic entirely.

I get the feeling if this somehow sees a second season, as Marika becomes a more experienced, stable leader, we'll see a lot more character depth. Until then... we're just gonna get touch and go. sad.gif

Also, I somehow expect to see Lynn become a staple part of the crew. She just has that first mate air about her, her costume fits the part, she knows when to shoot a gun, and is already on that side of the law anyway. biggrin.gif

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The same with Ririka. She was shown doing something new for her life but afterwards nothing more. And no real storys about Blaster Ririka, her connection to the old captain of the Bentenmaru. Not even the smallest bit of a story of the old adventures of the Bentenmaru with her deceased captian of anything.


C'mon. She's job hunting. There's only one possible way that can end.

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senpai-kun-nakama   Fansub TV Team May 02 2012, 02:17 PM Quote
QUOTE (Norren @ May 02 2012, 01:43 PM)
Perhaps their relationship isn't a romance element? Characters in love isn't romance in the way we're getting to see it. We didn't watch them fall in love, we probably won't get to see much more aside from that little bit of fan service, maybe one more fan service bit when they drop Jenny off at college. I think we should look at the scene as just that... fan service.

Let's see trying to rescue your girlfriend or lover with the help of space pirates from an scheming and oppressive uncle who's trying to get you to agree to an arranged marriage (so he can reap future financial benefits) and keep you from attending a reputable space university. After a successful reunion (all be it completely plot rushed) they glide into each others arms in dramatic fashion and start kissing. Hmm that sounds almost like a romance element to me wink.gif

I can see though you saying we didn't see them fall in love and may not delve into those two character's relationship later. So just chalk it up to fanservice. I won't argue that because I can see that as also being a plausible way to look at it as well. I just wondered what's the point of saying I've excluded all the romance elements when it's not entirely true. Though the bigger point that I didn't get to in my last post (one of the other reasons I brought it up) was him going in that direction in the first place and making claims of something unexpected developing due to this. The director goes on to say this below:

He said it's an experimental approach to compose the scripts focusing on the friendships without romance, but he believes something unexpected will be created in such an old-fashioned way.

So what exactly is this unexpected something that will be created in such an old-fashioned way by eliminating romance?

I know that we are not yet to the end of the season but that quote had me expecting something special or at least noteworthy. Like maybe the friendship bonds would develop and be portrayed in such a unique way that the viewer (me) would end up saying...

"Oh, I can see why there was no need for romance... this is really good w/out it."

But in all honesty it just seems like he was just spewing a bunch of crap. Eliminating romance has not helped nor made this story any more interesting in the least so far. I do hope that ultimately I change my opinion before the series is over because that will mean the show would have gotten significantly better by the end. I'm just not holding my breath.
 
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AccipiterF1-sama   Fansub TV Team May 02 2012, 02:32 PM Quote
I would guess he meant no romance for the main characters. This show is based on light novels, and though I am not sure how true to them it is, I would guess they have to serve certain plot points along the way even if you plan to excise romance from it. The fact that it's based on novels is also one of the reasons for the unsatisfactory pace of the show. In text you can play a long game with character and plot development, especially if you are spending time with the kind of character introspection that doesn't always end up in adaptations. But that kind of thing doesn't always mate well with the short-attention-span of the serial anime fan. But as far as I am concerned, what this show lacks in fast-paced action, it makes up for with enough cute girls doing cute things in space to keep it interesting. I do pine for more Chiaki and Mami, though. From the OP and ED it seemed like they would take a more central role, but since the end of the first arc, we've spent more time with the Princesses than them. sad.gif
 
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Killer_Ossi Fan of Mature Women   May 02 2012, 03:00 PM Quote
For me "but he believes something unexpected will be created in such an old-fashioned way." sounds like the romance between Lynn and Jenny wasnt meant to be but while creating this show (or the light novels) it it just happened to happen.

To be honest I can do without Chiaki, Mami and the princesses since I like neither of them. For me the old crew, Lynn, Jenny, Ririka and Marika would be enough.
 
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senpai-kun-nakama   Fansub TV Team May 02 2012, 04:02 PM Quote
QUOTE (AccipiterF1 @ May 02 2012, 03:32 PM)
The fact that it's based on novels is also one of the reasons for the unsatisfactory pace of the show. In text you can play a long game with character and plot development, especially if you are spending time with the kind of character introspection that doesn't always end up in adaptations. But that kind of thing doesn't always mate well with the short-attention-span of the serial anime fan.

I used to subscribe to this theory as well because it does sound like logical reasoning. Like you said with text you can do so much in terms of development in comparison to the allotted time you have with an anime. Once again it sounds good in theory... on the surface wink.gif Somewhere along the way though I changed my opinion and began to believe that is just a cop out for those anime (specifically the anime director) adapted from light novels that end up failing. I guess after watching The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Shakugan no Shana, Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai, Baccano, Durarara, and Fate/Zero (at the current moment) I stopped making excuses. Just off the top of my head those six anime were all adapted from light novels. I personally found them all highly entertaining, much more so than Mouretsu Pirates, with good and especially better pacing throughout. So nowadays (at least for me) I don't cut anime adapted from light novels anymore slack than those adapted from manga. It has been proven light novel adapted anime can have the great pacing and stories if done properly.

But on a side-note Accipiter I got a good laugh out of your sig. Gin just chilling and watching Basquash is pretty funny for some odd reason to me xD.
 
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Norren-san   May 02 2012, 04:26 PM Quote
I agree, Senpai. Recent LN conversions, aside from Fate/Zero, seem to require more apologetics than they should. Most seem to stall out and lose their momentum in a second season if they even get one.

I enjoy Mouretsu Pirates' world, but I feel like it would be better served in a 1 hour OVA miniseries format, like Break Blade was.

At least it fares better than some others are faring/have fared. *cough-accel world-cough-Shakugan no shana S2-cough*

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Norren-san   May 05 2012, 08:39 PM Quote
This episode made me think spaceballs. Space nazis, a "keep firing" moment... yeah.

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Kid-Wolf~The Night Sparrow's Assistant~   Fansub TV Team May 08 2012, 10:56 PM Quote
Hey the best way to solve all your problems is to keep firing even if you're not hitting anything. rolleyes.gif

In any case to think that Jenny's fiance was the type of spoiled rich kid that wanted to play war games with his friends only to go so horrably wrong in the end. not only that but they even managed to that Jenny's uncle down in the process.

In any case it was rather fun seeing the Yacht Club manage to pull off an ad-lib heist and thier outfits tend to look rather nice. Although I have to admit that Chiaki pretty much stole the spotlight for a bit there with her pretty much blowing off steam in a miko outfit. tongue.gif
 
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Norren-san   May 12 2012, 11:43 PM Quote
What a classic "Crisis in the middle of normal" this episode featured... but the real shock was The Pot-Au-Feu is her ~FATHER'S~ recipe?

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