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Avatar: The Legend of Korra, The TV Series

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senpai-kun-nakama   Fansub TV Team Apr 14 2012, 05:57 PM Quote
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Summary: The new series takes place seventy years after the end of the Avatar: The Last Airbender story arc, with new characters and settings. The protagonist of the new series, Korra, the Avatar after Aang, is a hot-headed and rebellious young woman from the Southern Water Tribe who is "ready to take on the world." The series will follow Korra as she faces an anti-bender revolt while mastering the art of airbending from Aang and Katara's son, Tenzin.

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My comments: Decided to go ahead and make this thread just in case some people want to follow along throughout the series. For those who are not aware this not an anime from Japan and that is why I'm putting it in the general discourse (don't feel like hearing arguments if I had placed it in the anime section). The show airs on Saturdays in America and is the second Avatar series.

Additional background info: The first series was called Avatar: The Last Airbender which aired for three seasons from 2005-2008. The series was created and produced by Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko, who served as executive producers along with Aaron Ehasz. Avatar: The Last Airbender is set in an Asian-influenced world wherein some are able to manipulate the classical elements by use of psychokinetic variants of Chinese martial arts known as "bending." The show combined the styles of anime and American cartoons, and relied for imagery upon various East-Asian, Inuit, and South-American societies, with a brief reference to the Indic. (Wiki)

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senpai-kun-nakama   Fansub TV Team Apr 14 2012, 06:14 PM Quote
I just watched the first episode about an hour ago and it was a nice start. It's too bad that Aang's time as Avatar is over because he was a really great character. But since this story takes place seventy years after the events of the original Avatar series I guess a fresh main lead character was necessary. I'm impressed so far with Korra and in some ways she reminds me of Aang and his adventurous type nature. At first impression it seems she is the take action first and ask questions later kind of heroine -- which I myself happen to like. It was funny that she got arrested during her first visit to Republic City; it appears that being the Avatar and enacting your own justice isn't going to fly this time around. One of the things that stood out to me was how the times have advanced so much technology wise from the first series. The whole setting looked really nice. I'm going to catch the second episode tonight (it was a two-part episode premiere).
 
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ImTakes ~Springtime~hime~   Sempais Apr 14 2012, 06:26 PM Quote
^ Gracias! user posted image My heart aches to now know that dear Ang is not to be found among the living but his memory and his legendary accomplishments remain to be re-told to a 100th generation...Prince Zuko's too, for that matter. wub.gif I shan't say more for fear of spoiler accusations and reprisals. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif Now, to episode two. wink.gif

After I watch episode two...will add more thoughts. Went ahead and transferred this over...let's hope a few others partake of said series. wink.gif
 
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Barbobot-the Pirate King   Fansub TV Team Apr 14 2012, 07:36 PM Quote
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I just watched the first episode about an hour ago and it was a nice start. It's too bad that Aang's time as Avatar is over because he was a really great character. But since this story takes place seventy years after the events of the original Avatar series I guess a fresh main lead character was necessary. I'm impressed so far with Korra and in some ways she reminds me of Aang and his adventurous type nature. At first impression it seems she is the take action first and ask questions later kind of heroine -- which I myself happen to like. It was funny that she got arrested during her first visit to Republic City; it appears that being the Avatar and enacting your own justice isn't going to fly this time around. One of the things that stood out to me was how the times have advanced so much technology wise from the first series. The whole setting looked really nice. I'm going to catch the second episode tonight (it was a two-part episode premiere).

I thought the same about the world. In 70 years it feels like technology advanced so far. In my mind I attribute that to Toph's invention of Metalbending. No one had ever done it before her and I imagine she went and taught Metalbending to a lot of Earthbenders. I imagine the industrial output of the world skyrocketed after learning the technique as it was most likely so much more efficient than the old ways.

I really am missing so many of the old characters though, especially since I just finished the first series last night. Kinda disappointed that only 1 character from the old crew appears to still be alive. I was hoping to see Sokka and Suki as well as Toph. I'm gonna miss the excellent blind jokes that cracked me up every single time.

Edit: Also, I must reiterate what Aang's grandchild tried asking. What happened to Zuko's mother? Made me laugh and be frustrated at the same time when I realized that they didn't finish that last season.

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senpai-kun-nakama   Fansub TV Team Apr 14 2012, 10:32 PM Quote
QUOTE (Barbobot @ Apr 14 2012, 08:36 PM)
Edit: Also, I must reiterate what Aang's grandchild tried asking.  What happened to Zuko's mother?  Made me laugh and be frustrated at the same time when I realized that they didn't finish that last season.

Yeah and it's always amusing when the writers can take a shot at themselves knowing that the viewers can at least appreciate the irony or sarcasm of the comment. Sometimes you just don't have the time to fill in every single part of a story before the episode order runs out it would seem.

I finished up episode two and I've got a better feel for the show now which gave me an overall positive feeling about its prospects. First I wondered how this new age technological aspect would play in the new series. I have to say that it was pretty refreshing. While the bending part (for instance Korra's training or her fight against the gangsters) kept you in touch with the shows roots the new elements like the pro-bending sport was innovative & entertaining to watch. The action sequences during the matches looked pretty sweet and you just knew that somehow Korra was going to find a way to get in on the action. Thank goodness that just because she's the avatar didn't mean that should would immediately excel. Oh yeah wasn't it just a little bit funny when Korra held a press conference to announce to the residents of Republic City that she was the new Avatar; I was like did that really just happen blink.gif haha.

Tenzin's little boy reminded me a bit of a miniature Aang but a bit more on the wild side. I got a good kick out of the scene where Korra calls Tenzin a terrible teacher and Tenzin's son repeats her line and goes into freak out mode kicking things all over the place. Plus I think that original series Avatar wit and funny one-liners kind of humor was much more apparent in this second episode which is a good sign. So all in all it was a good premiere and I like the direction the show is headed.
 
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ImTakes ~Springtime~hime~   Sempais Apr 14 2012, 11:52 PM Quote
A head's up...seems there is a request to have the Avatar conversation moved to the general discourse area...you already started the thread and now someone wants all of it moved here...whatever. rolleyes.gif Since Barbo started the topic and he is a fellow Mod like you...you all can handle it I suppose.
I was unable to catch up with episode two tonight but I ain't feeling it like you are Ossan...I miss the old gang too much and I just can't get used to the new chick having all of Ang's powers...too cliched for me. Not sure I will keep at this one but will decide after I watch episode two sometime tomorrow.
 
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franzoir -the smooth, the suave, and the shrewd   Sempais Apr 15 2012, 08:30 AM Quote
My friend absolutely loves this and wont stop going on about the new series.

While I also loved this show the ending really disappointed me and left a somewhat bitter legacy for me. Given Aang consulted Kiyoshi and Roku, I expected him to kill the fire lord. Oh well, it is a kid show and I dont even blame the producers, I primarily blame M Night Shymalan for prematurely ending the show. The show was suppose to go on for four seasons covering each element while also developing Ozai's character and answering the question of the whereabouts of Zuko's mother. However, around the end of the second season, the producers got the movie offer and M night Shymalan came in and told them to end the show, so they could begin production on the film. I feel sorry for the producers/writers because Shymalan almost destroyed a beautiful franchise.

As for the new show, one thing I always wished for was for more airbenders and now we have a whole cute clan of them.Meelo is just adorable. I particularly like Tenzin as well, but it weird thinking this reserved guy sprung from Aang loins. I'm sure I will begin to like Korra as she mellows out a bit more, but usually I dont like hotheaded characters unless they are psycho like Azula.

One thing that interests me though is since Tenzin is also Katara's son how comes none of his children are waterbenders as well? Oh well good start so far and pot bellied Korra was hilarious.

Edit: One more thing, this show will be perfect if they show Aang as Korra's spirit guide.
 
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ImTakes ~Springtime~hime~   Sempais Apr 15 2012, 10:50 AM Quote
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One more thing, this show will be perfect if they show Aang as Korra's spirit guide.

Now that would be something to behold...then I could settle in, eat my popcorn, and watch with glee. wink.gif

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Barbobot-the Pirate King   Fansub TV Team Apr 15 2012, 07:46 PM Quote
QUOTE (franzoir @ Apr 15 2012, 10:30 AM)
While I also loved this show the ending really disappointed me and left a somewhat bitter legacy for me. Given Aang consulted Kiyoshi and Roku, I expected him to kill the fire lord. Oh well, it is a kid show and I dont even blame the producers, I primarily blame M Night Shymalan for prematurely ending the show. The show was suppose to go on for four seasons covering each element while also developing Ozai's character and answering the question of the whereabouts of Zuko's mother. However, around the end of the second season, the producers got the movie offer and M night Shymalan came in and told them to end the show, so they could begin production on the film. I feel sorry for the producers/writers because Shymalan almost destroyed a beautiful franchise.

I feel it would have been very against Aang's nature to actually kill Ozai though and I'm glad he didn't. I have to question the part about Shymalan being the cause of the show ending at 3 seasons. I haven't found anything even hinting at that idea, so I have to disbelieve it unless you can provide some kind of good source about it. Though from everything I have read it is true that he committed a travesty to the series with his movie. Still want to see it now though just because.
 
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franzoir -the smooth, the suave, and the shrewd   Sempais Apr 15 2012, 10:04 PM Quote
QUOTE (Barbobot @ Apr 15 2012, 07:46 PM)
I feel it would have been very against Aang's nature to actually kill Ozai though and I'm glad he didn't.  I have to question the part about Shymalan being the cause of the show ending at 3 seasons.  I haven't found anything even hinting at that idea, so I have to disbelieve it unless you can provide some kind of good source about it.  Though from everything I have read it is true that he committed a travesty to the series with his movie.  Still want to see it now though just because.

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Quoted from Shymalan himself.

As for Aang pacifism. The Air Avatar who also believes in pacifism said that the job of the Avatar is to sacrifice their own spirituality for the betterment of the world. The very existence of the Avatar is in contrast to Air nomads teaching who believe in detachment from the world. So it is just very convenient he learnt energy bending from a random giant lion turtle ergo not having to make any real choice. But it is a kid show so I can understand why they went the safe route.
 
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Barbobot-the Pirate King   Fansub TV Team Apr 15 2012, 10:56 PM Quote
But just after that exact quote, since I found where it came from, Shyamalan says that their response was "no, we saw it as three seasons for each element that he has to learn". So it was intended to be 3 seasons. Whether or not that had much of an impact on the creation of season 3, who knows. But it doesn't seem to have been cause for a whole season to be excluded.

http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Transcript:Ro...Night_Shyamalan

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franzoir -the smooth, the suave, and the shrewd   Sempais Apr 15 2012, 11:58 PM Quote
Well season three was still pretty good, but I preferred season two overall and I still believe the close movie deadline offer added pressure to scale back plans for the original series.

Out of this the only bad thing that happened was a slightly rushed ending and a terrible film. Luckily, for die hard fans the comics filled in some of blanks and people have forgotten the movie adaption ever existed.
 
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daedalron-chan   Apr 16 2012, 04:32 AM Quote
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One thing that interests me though is since Tenzin is also Katara's son how comes none of his children are waterbenders as well?

I guess the waterbenders would be Kya's children (if she has any), as it seems each of Katara and Aang's children got really different (one waterbender, one non-bender, one airbender). So i guess most of the waterbending talent went to Kya.

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franzoir -the smooth, the suave, and the shrewd   Sempais Apr 22 2012, 01:52 PM Quote
After a hangover weekend, there is nothing better than watching saturday cartoons to sober up.

This was a really awesome episode. The choreography with the equalist was absolutely stunning. I cant recall the last time I saw such good fight choreography unless I compare it to The Raid. I had to watch that part 3 times over.

Also it is weird in ATLA lightning was for advanced users and now it is a completely mundane skill used to power up the grid. Show how much things have changed.

The only problem is, I really badly want a filler episode just following the hijinks and exploits of Jinora, Ikki and Meelo. They are my favourite characters. So frickin adorable.
 
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senpai-kun-nakama   Fansub TV Team Apr 22 2012, 11:27 PM Quote
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This was a really awesome episode. The choreography with the equalist was absolutely stunning. I cant recall the last time I saw such good fight choreography unless I compare it to The Raid. I had to watch that part 3 times over.

I had the same feelings after watching the third episode. The battle sequences are just so well done and it's not just because I love how they incorporate bending in such an aesthetically pleasing way. I really like how Korra being the Avatar isn't just all powerful and can take out every single enemy she encounters and the same can be said about the brothers. It's more fun when she and the guys have to really work for a victory.

I also really dig this whole revolution and anti-bender story-plot. With the new technology era this storyline needed to step outside of what we knew from the previous series and I really like the direction it's going. Someone who is not the Avatar having the ability to strip away a benders powers could strike a serious blow in favor of the anti-bender faction. I'm still skeptical that there isn't some trick to his ability but we shall see as the story starts to unfold in the next episodes. In the preview it looks like Korra called another press conference lol I don't think that will ever not be amusing to me.

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The only problem is, I really badly want a filler episode just following the hijinks and exploits of Jinora, Ikki and Meelo. They are my favourite characters. So frickin adorable.

Haha it's probably a little bit early for filler episodes when we are trying to establish the main course of the plot -- save the side dishes for later tongue.gif but the girls were funny this episode especially when they were giving Korra the business about possibly liking the stubborn brother. Korra earth-bended on them so quick I had to do a double take -- too funny.
 
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franzoir -the smooth, the suave, and the shrewd   Sempais Apr 23 2012, 03:32 AM Quote
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I really like how Korra being the Avatar isn't just all powerful and can take out every single enemy she encounters and the same can be said about the brothers.


I actually think she is weaker than Aang. I think the main power of the Avatar comes from having access to the spirit world and also being able to tap in to the past experiences of the avatar. Like all good capitalist cities, in Republic City spirituality has naturally died and I think Amon is playing on that. So until Korra masters the spiritual side to bending she is not going to be much help.

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but the girls were funny this episode especially when they were giving Korra the business about possibly liking the stubborn brother. Korra earth-bended on them so quick I had to do a double take -- too funny.


This was honestly my favourite part of the show. I just think the airbending kids are the show stealer.

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franzoir -the smooth, the suave, and the shrewd   Sempais Apr 28 2012, 12:55 PM Quote
Another fantastic episode. I usually champion strong pacing in serialisations more than anything else but if I had to critique this episode it would be that the pace was a little too fast.

Saying that, the writers can pretty much get away with anything because all the characters feel so authentic and real. I really love Ikki just screwfacing Tarrlock (?) at dinner. Never trust a man that smells like a girl. Just saying.

I was genuinely terrified for Korra when the equalist jumped her. The scene where she was frantically shooting off firebending just to catch glimpses of the equalists closing in reminded me of the horror film 'The Descent.' I wonder if the producers watch it. Anyway, if that doesnt give you the heebies jeebies I dont know what will.

And then there was the flashback that made this episode golden. Middle-aged Aang looked the definition of badass. The scene of him flying straight towards the camera was definitely lifted straight from DBZ and gave me schoolboy shivers. If Katara was worried she made the wrong choice between Zuko and Aang, she should now fist pump Toph.

Im very, very excited to see Korra meet Aang. It is coming. I wonder if Aang is going to do a spirit takeover like Roku did to Aang.

Edit: One more thing, given how brutal the taskforce was, from the initial inception of the plot premise, I cant help but think during the first four episodes, that there is more than an element of truth to the bending oppression going on. It is definitely a more nuanced story than good vs evil.
 
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senpai-kun-nakama   Fansub TV Team Apr 30 2012, 12:34 PM Quote
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And then there was the flashback that made this episode golden. Middle-aged Aang looked the definition of badass. The scene of him flying straight towards the camera was definitely lifted straight from DBZ and gave me schoolboy shivers. If Katara was worried she made the wrong choice between Zuko and Aang, she should now fist pump Toph.

Im very, very excited to see Korra meet Aang. It is coming. I wonder if Aang is going to do a spirit takeover like Roku did to Aang.

Edit: One more thing, given how brutal the taskforce was, from the initial inception of the plot premise, I cant help but think during the first four episodes, that there is more than an element of truth to the bending oppression going on. It is definitely a more nuanced story than good vs evil.

Initially that caught me off guard because the vision scene with him happened so suddenly. To see Aang as a grown-up and not just a little kid was pretty cool. I have to admit I had to reply in my head that in season one the reason why he was over a hundred years old and still had that young appearance was because he was frozen in that ice for so long. It got me thinking it would be nice to see some kind of Avatar movie where he's in that older form.

I also concur with you on the whole Equalist Movement. To just paint Amon and the others as villains seems way too premature and off base. I would suspect that there are definitely shades of grey that we aren't privy to just yet that might make us more sympathetic to the Equalist plight.

I really liked how the writers showed Korra's vulnerabilities this episode. She experiences fear and can be manipulated just as easily as anybody else. They're doing a great job portraying her as powerful yet inexperienced and in need of much growth. The ending scene where Amon spares her even though she foolishly tried to confront him in an "honorable one-on-one" battle was intriguing. It raised the question why not just take out one of your biggest adversaries when given the opportunity? To save the best for last? Whether it be confidence, cockiness, or a master plan at work I find him to be one really interesting character.
 
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JCDRANZER - Sky King - Ô-SAMAのスパム!   Fansub TV Team Apr 30 2012, 03:44 PM Quote
I have watched a few episodes here and there of the original Avatar series, this series has been recommended to me by my ex-girlfirend, loads of friends and 2 of my first cousins (who I'm very close to)....all of them watch anime. However, I just kinda stayed away from it, I know its good but when it was originally airing, I was very ignorant and annoyed by ppl calling it anime, hence, I never really watched it but now I really do want to watch this series, its about 40 episodes or so and with this new series, I'm really considering putting the effort to watching this series.

Its been highly recommended to me by them and I actually want to watch it. I did watch the live-action movie, which was weird to say the least and it must have made many Avatar fans cringe about it.
 
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Barbobot-the Pirate King   Fansub TV Team Apr 30 2012, 09:59 PM Quote
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I have watched a few episodes here and there of the original Avatar series, this series has been recommended to me by my ex-girlfirend, loads of friends and 2 of my first cousins (who I'm very close to)....all of them watch anime. However, I just kinda stayed away from it, I know its good but when it was originally airing, I was very ignorant and annoyed by ppl calling it anime, hence, I never really watched it but now I really do want to watch this series, its about 40 episodes or so and with this new series, I'm really considering putting the effort to watching this series.

Its been highly recommended to me by them and I actually want to watch it. I did watch the live-action movie, which was weird to say the least and it must have made many Avatar fans cringe about it.

That movie is sooooooooo bad. I lost count of how many times they felt like they had to tell the audience about Zhao's trip to the library. And it was so awkward to have Zuko pull some random kid aside so the kid could recite Zuko's backstory to the audience. That movie is just so full of fail.

You should definitely put in the effort JCD. The first series is about 60 episodes, split into 20 episode seasons roughly.
 
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